{"id":1404,"date":"2022-10-27T10:43:08","date_gmt":"2022-10-27T17:43:08","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/cinemagear.com\/blog\/?p=1404"},"modified":"2022-10-27T10:43:08","modified_gmt":"2022-10-27T17:43:08","slug":"correcting-the-18mm-red-prime-pl-mount","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/cinemagear.com\/blog\/2022\/10\/27\/correcting-the-18mm-red-prime-pl-mount\/","title":{"rendered":"Correcting the 18mm RED Prime PL Mount"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>I was talking to a cinematographer friend of mine who reminded me that, quite a number of years ago, I modified his RED Prime 18mm lens so it would work on his PL mounted MovieCam without crashing into the mirror. It seemed fitting to pass on what I did and do the same modification on the 18mm I recently acquired. The problem isn\u2019t that the rear element sticks back into the camera too far, but rather that there is a beauty ring that is threaded into the PL mount itself that is both too long and beveled at the wrong angle. To refresh my memory, I began by carefully comparing the PL mounts on the other RED Prime lenses that work on film cameras to the PL mount on the 18mm to determine the exact amount that needs to be removed from the beauty ring.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-gallery has-nested-images columns-default is-cropped wp-block-gallery-1 is-layout-flex wp-block-gallery-is-layout-flex\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/cinemagear.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/red-primes-lens-mt-1.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1080\" height=\"1080\" data-id=\"1395\" src=\"https:\/\/cinemagear.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/red-primes-lens-mt-1.jpg\" alt=\"A comparison of the PL lens mounts on the RED Prime 18mm, the RED Prime 50mm, and the Uniq Optics 100mm.\" class=\"wp-image-1395\" srcset=\"https:\/\/cinemagear.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/red-primes-lens-mt-1.jpg 1080w, https:\/\/cinemagear.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/red-primes-lens-mt-1-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/cinemagear.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/red-primes-lens-mt-1-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/cinemagear.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/red-primes-lens-mt-1-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/cinemagear.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/red-primes-lens-mt-1-768x768.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1080px) 100vw, 1080px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/cinemagear.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/red-primes-lens-mt-2.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1080\" height=\"1080\" data-id=\"1396\" src=\"https:\/\/cinemagear.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/red-primes-lens-mt-2.jpg\" alt=\"Close-up comparison of the 18mm and 50mm RED Prime lenses to show the different shape and dimension of the beauty rings on the two PL mounts.\" class=\"wp-image-1396\" srcset=\"https:\/\/cinemagear.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/red-primes-lens-mt-2.jpg 1080w, https:\/\/cinemagear.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/red-primes-lens-mt-2-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/cinemagear.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/red-primes-lens-mt-2-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/cinemagear.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/red-primes-lens-mt-2-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/cinemagear.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/red-primes-lens-mt-2-768x768.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1080px) 100vw, 1080px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/cinemagear.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/red-primes-lens-mt-3.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1080\" height=\"1080\" data-id=\"1397\" src=\"https:\/\/cinemagear.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/red-primes-lens-mt-3.jpg\" alt=\"The 18mm and 50mm lenses, beauty rings removed to measure and document what is to be machined off of the 18mm beauty ring.\" class=\"wp-image-1397\" srcset=\"https:\/\/cinemagear.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/red-primes-lens-mt-3.jpg 1080w, https:\/\/cinemagear.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/red-primes-lens-mt-3-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/cinemagear.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/red-primes-lens-mt-3-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/cinemagear.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/red-primes-lens-mt-3-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/cinemagear.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/red-primes-lens-mt-3-768x768.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1080px) 100vw, 1080px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n<\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>All of that data gathered, I removed the PL mount from the 18mm, mounted it on the lathe, indicated the mount true and parallel, and machined it to the correct height and 45 degree bevel. I blackened it with aluminum blackening compound so it matched the rest of the lens set, reinstalled the mount, recollumiated the lens, and tried it on what I thought would be the worst case scenario, an Arri 2B that had been converted to PL mount. (I know this has a 2C door, I converted this 2B camera to have a 2C door on it years ago.) I pulled the aperture plate out of the 2B, slowly rotated the mirror by hand to make sure everything cleared as I calculated, and voil\u00e1! An 18mm RED Prime that will work with a film camera!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-gallery has-nested-images columns-2 is-cropped wp-block-gallery-2 is-layout-flex wp-block-gallery-is-layout-flex\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/cinemagear.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/red-primes-lens-mt-4.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1080\" height=\"1080\" data-id=\"1398\" src=\"https:\/\/cinemagear.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/red-primes-lens-mt-4.jpg\" alt=\"Setup PL mount with beauty ring installed on lathe and indicate true and parallel.\" class=\"wp-image-1398\" srcset=\"https:\/\/cinemagear.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/red-primes-lens-mt-4.jpg 1080w, https:\/\/cinemagear.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/red-primes-lens-mt-4-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/cinemagear.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/red-primes-lens-mt-4-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/cinemagear.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/red-primes-lens-mt-4-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/cinemagear.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/red-primes-lens-mt-4-768x768.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1080px) 100vw, 1080px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/cinemagear.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/red-primes-lens-mt-5.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1080\" height=\"1080\" data-id=\"1399\" src=\"https:\/\/cinemagear.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/red-primes-lens-mt-5.jpg\" alt=\"Machining to reduce height of beauty ring and put 45 degree bevel on the back.\" class=\"wp-image-1399\" srcset=\"https:\/\/cinemagear.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/red-primes-lens-mt-5.jpg 1080w, https:\/\/cinemagear.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/red-primes-lens-mt-5-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/cinemagear.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/red-primes-lens-mt-5-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/cinemagear.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/red-primes-lens-mt-5-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/cinemagear.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/red-primes-lens-mt-5-768x768.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1080px) 100vw, 1080px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/cinemagear.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/red-primes-lens-mt-6.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1080\" height=\"1080\" data-id=\"1400\" src=\"https:\/\/cinemagear.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/red-primes-lens-mt-6.jpg\" alt=\"A comparison of the beauty ring before and after machining.\" class=\"wp-image-1400\" srcset=\"https:\/\/cinemagear.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/red-primes-lens-mt-6.jpg 1080w, https:\/\/cinemagear.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/red-primes-lens-mt-6-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/cinemagear.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/red-primes-lens-mt-6-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/cinemagear.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/red-primes-lens-mt-6-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/cinemagear.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/red-primes-lens-mt-6-768x768.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1080px) 100vw, 1080px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/cinemagear.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/red-primes-lens-mt-7.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1080\" height=\"1080\" data-id=\"1401\" src=\"https:\/\/cinemagear.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/red-primes-lens-mt-7.jpg\" alt=\"PL mount and beauty ring after machining and finishing, reinstalled on 18mm RED Prime lens.\" class=\"wp-image-1401\" srcset=\"https:\/\/cinemagear.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/red-primes-lens-mt-7.jpg 1080w, https:\/\/cinemagear.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/red-primes-lens-mt-7-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/cinemagear.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/red-primes-lens-mt-7-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/cinemagear.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/red-primes-lens-mt-7-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/cinemagear.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/red-primes-lens-mt-7-768x768.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1080px) 100vw, 1080px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n<\/figure>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I was talking to a cinematographer friend of mine who reminded me that, quite a number of years ago, I modified his RED Prime 18mm lens so it would work on his PL mounted MovieCam without crashing into the mirror. It seemed fitting to pass on what I did and do the same modification on [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":1402,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"site-sidebar-layout":"default","site-content-layout":"","ast-site-content-layout":"default","site-content-style":"default","site-sidebar-style":"default","ast-global-header-display":"","ast-banner-title-visibility":"","ast-main-header-display":"","ast-hfb-above-header-display":"","ast-hfb-below-header-display":"","ast-hfb-mobile-header-display":"","site-post-title":"","ast-breadcrumbs-content":"","ast-featured-img":"","footer-sml-layout":"","ast-disable-related-posts":"","theme-transparent-header-meta":"","adv-header-id-meta":"","stick-header-meta":"","header-above-stick-meta":"","header-main-stick-meta":"","header-below-stick-meta":"","astra-migrate-meta-layouts":"default","ast-page-background-enabled":"default","ast-page-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"ast-content-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"footnotes":""},"categories":[6],"tags":[85,15,61,172],"class_list":["post-1404","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-lenses","tag-arri","tag-arriflex","tag-prime-lens","tag-red"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/cinemagear.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1404","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/cinemagear.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/cinemagear.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/cinemagear.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/cinemagear.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1404"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/cinemagear.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1404\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1405,"href":"https:\/\/cinemagear.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1404\/revisions\/1405"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/cinemagear.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/1402"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/cinemagear.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1404"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/cinemagear.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1404"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/cinemagear.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1404"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}